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can you redgard over kerdi

by Dino Bergstrom Published 4 years ago Updated 3 years ago

Yes you can paint over Kerdi board but you will need to give it a light coat of joint compound and do a little sanding. What will RedGard stick to? Suited for interior substrates, RedGard® SpeedCoat creates a continuous waterproofing barrier with outstanding adhesion. It bonds directly to clean metal, PVC, stainless steel and ABS drain assemblies.

Can you Redgard over Kerdi? No, it won't interfere with the performance or adversely effect it. RedGuard is not harder to adhere to. There is no reason to use both products although it can be easier to use the RedGuard in corners and niches without the build up you can get with kerdi.Oct 25, 2021

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Will Kerdi stick to redgard?

RedGuard is not harder to adhere to. There is no reason to use both products although it can be easier to use the RedGuard in corners and niches without the build up you can get with kerdi. Click to see full answer. Then, will Thinset stick to Redgard? You''ll be fine with thinset over Redguard on walls.

Is redgard or Kerdi better for Steam showers?

Kerdi is probably more difficult for a first time user, but with practice goes in quickly. It has an advantage over Redgard in steam showers as it is a vapor barrier whereas Redgard is not. Like I said, if you're not happy with Kerdi there are other options that will work well if properly installed to mfg specs.

Can Kerdi board be used with Kerdi-fix?

KERDIBOARD can be adhered with KERDI-FIX in various applications, such as countert ops, partitions, and other building elements. Bonding KERDI membrane.

What is the difference between Kerdi Pan and redgard Pan?

The Kerdi pan would run several inches up the walls, and the Redgard would overlap it, using reinforced fabric over the seam.

Will unmodified thinset stick to RedGard?

Powdered, unmodified thinset mortar will stick to RedGard waterproofing membrane and securely fuse your tile in place. To make sure your tile installation goes well and remains durable, follow these rules: Allow RedGard to fully dry before you begin tiling.

Does Kerdi-board need to be waterproofed?

Now that the KERDI-BOARD is installed you have to waterproof all the seams. And the way to do that is to use KERDI-BAND on every seam and screw. This is important: use unmodified thin-set to embed the KERDI-BAND.

Can you tile over Kerdi-board?

For most installations of KERDI-BOARD, tile can be installed right away. Exceptions include curved wall areas and non-bearing partition wall systems. In these applications, the tiles can be installed once the bonding materials have cured sufficiently to stabilize the KERDI-BOARD assembly.

What happens if you use modified thinset on KERDI?

Modified thinset mortars aren't recommended for use with Kerdi because they must dry out to gain strength, whereas the membrane inhibits drying, which can lead to unpredictable results. For example, if a shower is used before the mortar has cured properly, leaks and polymer leaching can occur.

How do you seal a KERDI-BOARD?

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Can I use KERDI-BOARD instead of cement board?

It's a lightweight polystyrene board faced with Kerdi that comes in various thicknesses that you can use in place of drywall or cement board.

Can you install tile over KERDI membrane?

Once the KERDI membrane, including seams, corners and protrusions have been completely bonded and, therefore, waterproofed, the assembly is ready to be tiled. No wait time is required. A water test should be performed before setting tile to verify a successful waterproofing installation.

Can you tile over KERDI shower pan?

To tile a Kerdi Shower Pan, dry fit the tiles within the shower pan to ensure that each tile fits appropriately. Next, mix up thinset mortar and apply it to the shower pan using an appropriately sized trowel. Allow thinset mortar to dry and then fill tile grout lines with grout.

Can you use tile adhesive on KERDI membrane?

In general, modified thin-set mortar is not recommended to set ceramic and stone tile, including large format tiles, over the KERDI membrane. Modified thin-set mortars must dry for the polymers to coalesce and form a hard film in order to gain strength.

What Thinset do you use with KERDI?

Schluter SET™, ALL-SET™, FAST-SET™ or an unmodified thin-set mortar must be used to construct all KERDI seams to ensure watertightperformance of the system.

Can I use modified thinset over Schluter?

In general, we don't recommend the use of modified thin-set mortar to set tile over the membranes because these mortars must air dry to cure properly.

Which Thinset for KERDI shower pan?

To install a Kerdi Shower Pan, apply Schluter ALL-SET mortar (or an unmodified thinset mortar) to your subfloor using a 1/4” x 3/8” square-notch trowel.

Can you use Redguard with Kerdi?

1) No, it won't interfere with the performance or adversely effect it. RedGuard is not harder to adhere to. There is no reason to use both products although it can be easier to use the RedGuard in corners and niches without the build up you can get with kerdi.

Is Kerdi shower tile waterproof?

You get a shower that is just about 100% watertight all the way up to the shower head. A shower that will dry out quickly because the waterproof layer is just behind the tile.

Does a Kerdi shower need redgard?

A shower that is really first class. RedGard is a good product and has its uses. But a Kerdi shower is not one of them. You don't need RedGard.

Why won't I see a hybrid shower?

The problem, and the primary reason you won't see it recommended on the DIY side of the forum, is that a hybrid shower voids the manufacturers' warranty... neither Schluter or Custom Building Products will warranty their product if used in conjunction with another product.

Is customblend a premium mortar?

They specify a 'premium' dryset mortar for a reason. While Customblend is a minimum spec mortar, it is more sand than cement. The difference in bonding is huge, and the ease of installation when you use a premium dryset would change your opinion (and is what is called for in the installation manual).

Is Redgard a waterproof membrane?

Redgard or the other surface applied liquid membranes are easy to trowel, brush, or roll on, and if properly applied per the mfg's specs will produce a waterproof shower. The risk is that Redgard is applied to thin and will fail...it's not bullet proof and must be installed to the mfg's thicknes spec.#N#Kerdi is probably more difficult for a first time user, but with practice goes in quickly. It has an advantage over Redgard in steam showers as it is a vapor barrier whereas Redgard is not.#N#Like I said, if you're not happy with Kerdi there are other options that will work well if properly installed to mfg specs.#N#My biggest gripe with Kerdi is that overlapped seams can build out to the point of causing setting problems, particularly in the inside corners of niches. Kerdi band is thinner that the sheet, but it still bumps out the surface at times causing me to feather with thinset to obtain a flatter substrate. With Redgard it's recommended you use reinforcing fabric at changes in plane, but their fabric is much thinner than Kerdiband and doesn't cause the same problems...IMO.

Can you use Kerdi pan for a hybrid shower?

To answer your question, yes many pros install hybrid showers: Kerdi pan and Redgard (or Hydroban, etc.) walls. The Kerdi pan would run several inches up the walls, and the Redgard would overlap it, using reinforced fabric over the seam.

Is Kerdi better than triples?

This is because it's easy to miss a pin hole (or a dozen) in redgard installs. Kerdi is a great product, and after you do a few showers the speed of installing it better than triples. Liquid membranes do turn out a bit cheaper on labor and materials, but are less robust. jadnashua. 02-25-2014, 10:18 AM.

Can you use Kerdi to patch a lower wall?

If necessary, use Kerdi to patch the lower wall, then use Kerdiband to tie that to the pan. Maybe not pretty, but once the tile is in you'll forget about it. I don't see a problem doing this, and it's a better option than ripping out all of the wall Kerdi IMO. Kman.

Can Redgard be waterproof?

The question isn't that RedGard can't waterproof things...when installed properly over a mudbed, it works fine. The Kerdi (or anyone's) foam pan does NOT meet its specs for strength unless it is covered with the membrane.

Can you use Redguard with Kerdi?

No, it won’ t interfere with the performance or adversely effect it. RedGuard is not harder to adhere to. There is no reason to use both products although it can be easier to use the RedGuard in corners and niches without the build up you can get with kerdi.

Is Kerdi board better than cement board?

Is Kerdi better than cement board? As you can see, KERDI-BOARD is easier to lift and cut versus cement board.

Is Kerdi water proof?

Kerdi is the vapor barrier, there is no need for anything behind it. Kerdi can even be installed over drywall. Cement board and grout are not water proof, if there’s Kerdi no moisture is ever going to be able to get behind it.

Can kerdi board go over drywall?

Does Kerdi board go over drywall? First Kerdi can be installed on drywall or cement board. However if installed on drywall it is only protecting one side. The back side of the drywall fails and it is just as bad or worse than if it had an issue on the tile side.

Can you use modified thinset mortar with Kerdi?

Modified thinset mortars aren’t recommended for use with Kerdi because they must dry out to gain strength, whereas the membrane inhibits drying, which can lead to unpredictable results. For example, if a shower is used before the mortar has cured properly, leaks and polymer leaching can occur.

Re: Liquid Waterproofing Membrane over Kerdi Board?

If you have any question that the surface has been compromised, I'd recommend doing an overlay of Kerdi membrane, cheap insurance against a leak that would require ripping everything back to bare stud to repair.

Re: Liquid Waterproofing Membrane over Kerdi Board?

I’ve never used a liquid membrane over Kerdi so I can’t say what it would do?

Re: Liquid Waterproofing Membrane over Kerdi Board?

Thanks for the replies. That's the same thing the lady at Schluter's said.

Re: Liquid Waterproofing Membrane over Kerdi Board?

Manufacturers, all of them, only want their products used because their stuff is all designed around their product line, it's made to be compatible. When you start using other brands of products and mixing them together, nobody knows what you'll get because the products were not designed to go together.

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