Can you put Type F transmission fluid? RAY: If you put Dexron
DEXRON
DEXRON is the trade name for a group of technical specifications of automatic transmission fluid created by General Motors. The name is a registered trademark of GM, which licenses the name and specifications to companies which manufacture the fluid and sell it under their own …
Automatic transmission fluid
Automatic transmission fluid (ATF) is the fluid used in vehicles with self shifting or automatic transmissions. It is typically coloured red or green to distinguish it from motor oil and other fluids in the vehicle.
What type of fluid should I use for my transmission?
There are two primary types of transmission fluid, automatic and manual. Automatic transmission fluid (ATF) is used in all cars that have automatic transmissions and in certain modern manual transmission cars. Manual transmission oil is the fluid used in some manual cars; it is never used in automatic transmission vehicles.
What kind of transmission fluid do you use?
- Clean and protect metal surfaces from wear
- Condition gaskets
- Enhance cooling function and reduce high operating temperatures
- Increase rotational speed and temperature range
Are there different types of automatic transmission fluid?
Unfortunately, names, codes, and packaging can be confusing. There are two basic types of automatic transmission fluids. Traditional (or regular) automatic transmission fluids are made from natural oils that are combined with antioxidants and corrosion inhibitors.
Which transmission fluid do I Need?
The vast majority of passenger car and light truck transmissions operate automatically, that is without the need to manually shift gears. Automatic transmission fluid is a critical component of any automatic transmission. Also referred to as ATF, this fluid ensures proper operation, performance and protection of the automatic transmission.
Can I use Type F transmission fluid?
It's specifically recommended for use in the following applications: Ford M2C33-F and M2C33-G, as well as air compressors, general purpose hydraulics and power steering systems that call for Type F. For the many shifts and miles ahead, trust your transmission with Valvoline, the #1 automatic transmission fluid brand.
Can you put Type F transmission fluid in GM?
Type "F" fluid is a heaver viscosity. Stands more heat also. Just the installation of type "F" fluid will have a firmer shift. You can not use it in a any of the GM overdrive transmissions.
Can you mix Type F and Mercon?
It's generally held that a quart or two of F and the rest of a C4 filled with Mercon works fine.
Is Type F transmission fluid the same as ATF?
Ford first produced its own ATF in 1967 and referred to as Type F. The name comes from Ford's specification number for the fluid, ESW M2C33-F. This fluid was used in all Ford transmissions until 1977 and most Ford transmissions until 1980.
Can you mix type F with DEXRON?
As to ATF, no problem mixing Dexron and Type F, one can actually fine tune shift harshness as Type F is in fact "grippier".
What replaces ATF Type F?
MerconThis type of drive train fluid should not be used in automatics that require Type F. It can be replaced with Mercon or Mercon V specification.
Can I use Type F instead of Mercon?
Type F is not compatible with any other ATF. Specifically, it is not compatible with Mercon ATFs. Ford Type H—developed for the C5 Ford automatic transmission introduced in 1981, it has been superseded by Mercon. Type H is not compatible with Type F and should not be used in a transmission requiring Type F.
What is Ford Type F transmission?
Mobil Type F ATF is an automatic transmission fluid which is made from high quality base oils with viscosity index improvers, antioxidants, anti-wear agents, defoamants and special additives to provide the controlled frictional characteristics of a Type F fluid in automatic transmission applications.
Is it bad to mix different transmission fluids?
Is it OK to mix synthetic ATF with a conventional and/or synthetic blend ATF? Yes. Synthetic ATF and conventional fluids are 100 percent compatible with each other.
Is Type F fluid synthetic?
Red Line's Racing ATF is full-synthetic product designed for use in racing automatic transmissions which need the positive shift of a Type F automatic transmission fluid....Featured Retailers.Quart30304Gallon303055 Gallon*3030616 Gallon*3030755 Gallon*30308
What are the different types of fluids?
Here's a list of the different types of fluids, and the basic differences between them: 1 Type F - Yes, it's still around, as a quick walk through at your local parts store will attest. The only thing is, almost nothing uses it anymore. Type F was designed for Fords that used bronze clutches; the last trans made with bronze clutches was the Cruizematic, last used in the early '70s. Unless you're talking about a classic car or an antique, you can be pretty sure your car doesn't use Type F. 2 Dexron III/Mercon - This is one of the most common fluids on the market. Most GM and Ford units call for this type of ATF, as well as many imports. If your owners manual recommends any form of Dexron, or any Mercon - other than Mercon V - this is the fluid you want. 3 HFM-Style Fluids - HFM stands for Highly Friction Modified; it's a fluid that provides different friction characteristics than Dexron III/Mercon. This fluid appears under a number of different names, including Chrysler's ATF+ - also called 7670. Other manufacturers that use HFM ATF include:#N#Honda/Acura#N#Jeep/Eagle#N#Hyundai#N#Toyota/Lexus#N#Saturn#N#Sterling
Why is ATF fluid important?
And, when squeezed between the clutches, ATF acts as a 'glue,' providing additional friction and holding capacity to drive the vehicle. So ATF is a very versatile fluid. That's why maintaining that fluid can be so critical to transmission life.
Is the Type F still around?
Type F - Yes, it's still around, as a quick walk through at your local parts store will attest. The only thing is, almost nothing uses it anymore. Type F was designed for Fords that used bronze clutches; the last trans made with bronze clutches was the Cruizematic, last used in the early '70s.
Do synthetic oils last longer?
In simple terms, synthetics last longer. Synthetic oils are one reason why many manufacturers are also beginning to eliminate the transmission dipstick. Their feeling seems to be the ATF will last longer, so there's no reason to let people interfere with the transmission and its operation.
What fluid did Ford use to masked shifts?
So they came out with Dexron, which was a slipperier fluid that masked the shifts very nicely. RAY: Before long, Ford realized that GM was right about what the customer wanted, and they came out with Mercon, which is also a "friction modified" fluid.
Is Ford Type F fluid friction modified?
That means, in layman's terms, they are extra slippery. TOM: Ford Type F, on the other hand, is not friction modified. And in transmissions that are not designed for it, Type F fluid will cause rough shifts, and can even cause damage by making the torque converter engage before it should.
Can you put Dexron fluid in a Chrysler 7176?
RAY: If you put Dexron, Mercon or Chrysler 7176 transmission fluid in just about any transmission, it will perform just fine. That's because all of those are what are called "friction modified" products. That means, in layman's terms, they are extra slippery.
banjopete Member
As seen in some of my posts last month, I had to replace my clutch pack with a Barnett extra plate package. Their instruction say "do not" use HD formula one oil but instead, use regular automotive type F automatic trany fluid. I even phoned Barnett's tech guys to make sure I understood it and my HD service person also said use the type F juice.
03HD883R Active Member
I was in the same boat you are in. I replaced/upgraded my clutch to the Barnet extra plate clutch. I love it and the install went perfect. I even added the 30% heavier diaphragm spring. Kills my hand... but I like it...
Jack Klarich Guest
Look at the starter, is it wet, if it leaks when it is running this could be the source
03HD883R Active Member
I didn't read the leaky seal part... any time I dig into some place where there is fluids, I always replace the gasket; which it sounds like they did, but they might've not taken their time.
banjopete Member
Thanks for all your inputs guys. My issue is not which seal is leaking but why? Last fall I did a pully replacement and changed ALL seals including quad, starter, main shaft etc, etc. All was tight until I did put in the Barnett chutch pac in early June and used their recommended type F ATF.
What is type F trans oil?
Type F trans oil is simply a low viscosity hydraulic oil with a specific additive package to reduce foaming and provide high detergent properties that meets the spec set out by Ford last in 1967.
What is the additive used in rear axles?
It is not commonly known in many circles but the original posi trac additive used in rear axles is an extract of fish oils, normally called a friction modifier on the bottle.
What is posi trac additive?
It is not commonly known in many circles but the original posi trac additive used in rear axles is an extract of fish oils, normally called a friction modifier on the bottle.# N#High tech.
Happy Johnson Veteran Member
What is the benefit of running type F Ford fluid in a TH 400. Can it cause any harm?
Eric Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member
You may/may not have noticed- even Ford doesn't use "Type F" tranny fluid anymore. It had a very slight higher boiling temperature (something like 10* on 1200*- i.e. 1190* vs 1200*) than Dexron and Mercon, and it also has/had more solid particulate matter- presumably to aid loosely fit frictions hold a bit better.
Happy Johnson Veteran Member
Thanks guys. Ford type F was listed on the BSE combo sheet so I'd thought I'd ask. I'm going to use Dexron.
jakeshoe Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member
Many aftermarket converter companies suggest this because they are still stuck in the 70's.
RacerRick Veteran Member
On a old worn transmission, Type F will firm up the shifts a lot because of its high particulate count, and differing friction properties. Great for nursing the transmission another 10,000 miles in your old 70's beater.
Happy Johnson Veteran Member
I just had a TH400 built for my new engine so I don't need to nurse it along. Thanks for info guys.
Transman Veteran Member
Ditto the myth that Type F is the way to go. I have used and recommended Dex/Merc fluid in all of the GM trannies I have raced/built/sold. If you feel the need to go exotic, then use a synthetic like Mobil 1, but IMO unless you have a heat issue that is not needed. Keep it clean, well-filtered, and under 200* in the pan and you are fine!
